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I am sorry if this sounds repetitive but I just want to make one thing clear.

I AM NOT A MUSLIM ANYMORE HAVING DISAVOWED IT SO MANY YEARS AGO. At this point in my life Islam is nothing but a distant memory.

However certain values present among Mujahideen groups also present in Islam I believe we should incorporate into the daily lives of an Incel man such as masculinity, patriarchy, brotherhood, brothers supporting brothers, male only groups, entities, institutions, arenas basically men supporting men. A huge emphasis on Men's Rights.

ALL OF THIS SHOULD BE DONE WITHOUT GENDER SEGREGATION! This is a part of Islam I do not actually agree with because it promotes involuntarly celibacy rather than getting rid of it. Just think about it how are you going to be in a romantic and sexual relationship with a foid if you don't have any access to females?

I uphold patriarchal and masculine values preached in Islam and hold them to a high degree.

I am currently a member of the Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints.

I am a Latter Day Saint who has not forgotten about brotherhood in Islam.
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Its fine

A lot of people here aren't muslims
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SonOfElliotRodger wrote: 06 Dec 2025, 18:59 I am sorry if this sounds repetitive but I just want to make one thing clear.

I AM NOT A MUSLIM ANYMORE HAVING DISAVOWED IT SO MANY YEARS AGO. At this point in my life Islam is nothing but a distant memory.

However certain values present among Mujahideen groups also present in Islam I believe we should incorporate into the daily lives of an Incel man such as masculinity, patriarchy, brotherhood, brothers supporting brothers, male only groups, entities, institutions, arenas basically men supporting men. A huge emphasis on Men's Rights.

ALL OF THIS SHOULD BE DONE WITHOUT GENDER SEGREGATION! This is a part of Islam I do not actually agree with because it promotes involuntarly celibacy rather than getting rid of it. Just think about it how are you going to be in a romantic and sexual relationship with a foid if you don't have any access to females?

I uphold patriarchal and masculine values preached in Islam and hold them to a high degree.

I am currently a member of the Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints.

I am a Latter Day Saint who has not forgotten about brotherhood in Islam.
I thought about becoming a Muslim before. I read the first part of the Quran I thought it was pretty good. The problem is what the Bible says. “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” -John 14:6

It’s like Judaism trying to get the Father without the Son. Except Judaism is worse cause they worship Baal and Moloch. And the Jews say Jesus is burning in piss and shit in hell. At least the Muslims respect Jesus.

“Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.” -1 John 2:23

“ 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.” -Galatians 1:8-9

I’m pretty sure the Quran says Muslims, Christians and Jews can get to heaven. The Bible says only those who accept Christ can go to heaven. So Christianity is safer for eternity if you ask me.
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KingDavid wrote: 06 Dec 2025, 20:42
SonOfElliotRodger wrote: 06 Dec 2025, 18:59 I am sorry if this sounds repetitive but I just want to make one thing clear.

I AM NOT A MUSLIM ANYMORE HAVING DISAVOWED IT SO MANY YEARS AGO. At this point in my life Islam is nothing but a distant memory.

However certain values present among Mujahideen groups also present in Islam I believe we should incorporate into the daily lives of an Incel man such as masculinity, patriarchy, brotherhood, brothers supporting brothers, male only groups, entities, institutions, arenas basically men supporting men. A huge emphasis on Men's Rights.

ALL OF THIS SHOULD BE DONE WITHOUT GENDER SEGREGATION! This is a part of Islam I do not actually agree with because it promotes involuntarly celibacy rather than getting rid of it. Just think about it how are you going to be in a romantic and sexual relationship with a foid if you don't have any access to females?

I uphold patriarchal and masculine values preached in Islam and hold them to a high degree.

I am currently a member of the Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints.

I am a Latter Day Saint who has not forgotten about brotherhood in Islam.
I thought about becoming a Muslim before. I read the first part of the Quran I thought it was pretty good. The problem is what the Bible says. “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” -John 14:6

It’s like Judaism trying to get the Father without the Son. Except Judaism is worse cause they worship Baal and Moloch. And the Jews say Jesus is burning in piss and shit in hell. At least the Muslims respect Jesus.

“Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.” -1 John 2:23

“ 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.” -Galatians 1:8-9

I’m pretty sure the Quran says Muslims, Christians and Jews can get to heaven. The Bible says only those who accept Christ can go to heaven. So Christianity is safer for eternity if you ask me.
Actually the Quran says only Muslims can go to heaven.

Islam generally has way too many rules and regulations limiting almost any pleasure known to humanity. If you live in the West and are from such a background you really feel alienated and inferior as was my case growing up. This along with so many other reasons was why I disavowed Islam long ago. Not to mention being physically, mentally, verbally and emotionally abused and bullied by low life illegitimate cocksucking motherfuckers, whores and skanks who call themselves fucking "good muslims" but actually worship the devil. There is a lot of force, hypocrisy and down right bizarre traditions in Islam that equate entirely to abuse and torture.

So consider it a blessing you chose not to become a Muslim.

My experience with Evangelical Christianity and the LDS Church were different I found nothing but love and compassion in these arenas.

Good thinking to stick with Christ.
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CyberSchizo wrote: 06 Dec 2025, 20:57 This forum's association with Islam never made sense to me.
What our beloved leader @Darth_aurelius is trying to imply by associating Islam with this forum are certain patriarchal and masculine values that can help unify us together and better ourselves in the struggles for Incel's Rights and Men's Rights. With employing the same steadfast commitment as the Mujahideen getting ourselves together and uniting against the evils of a corrupted world that has brought us nothing but suffering, misery and gaslighting by the rest of society. The original meaning of Jihad is a personal struggle with the mind, body and soul. Better yourself and then help others and using this mindset we surely can accomplish our mission for creating a better world for Incel men.

Islam generally encourages people to be proactive and find a solution rather than to just sit around and wait for a miracle to come.

In addition brotherhood and Men's Right's are given importance among Mujahideen groups.
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CyberSchizo wrote: 06 Dec 2025, 20:57 This forum's association with Islam never made sense to me.
Yeah im struggling too. I was thinking its an intelligence operation. I mean, I was worried maybe is one of these psyops where they mix communism + islam like that party in the UK.

It seems is a side thought in incel scene, some sort of thought experiment that was born in incel forums. The idea, how I understood it, is that what about we do marxist rodgerism with islam? Islam would be the fanatical fuel, the idea that gives incels that "fire", so they become implacable terminator machines who inflict summary justice on whores and normies. Instead communism is the reward for the loyal guards of the incel wisdom who worship ER and the saints. So the benevolent magnanimous communist elites can bestow pussy on any incel willing to carry out the mission of punishing normies and so on.

These ideas seem "insane". But, I realized recently they can exist. For instance 10 years ago I was reading this guy curtis yarwin thinking he was a loser nobody. I was thinking I was losing my life reading manuresphere bloggers. And this is true I did lose my life doing it. But this guy curtis yarwin now is literally the MAGA ideologue, his insane ideology is "serious stuff" for the times we live in.

The big idea is, yeah we forum retards do "matter". You can consider it a good thing or bad. I just am saying what I think it is. Even 4chan "matters". Redpill matters, it informed the views of politicians, it literally impregnated our entire culture.

FOr as much insane or impossible an idea may look to you, dont dismiss it instantly thinking it cannot happen. A lot of things we think currently are "impossible" will happen.

Which is why I keep talking online about remigration. I want to accustom normies to think we can remigrate all the browns and ship them back. They were used to think this is "impossible". But Im building rationalizations and accustom people to expect it can happen.
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CyberSchizo wrote: 06 Dec 2025, 20:57 This forum's association with Islam never made sense to me.

I say this respectfully but please educate yourself comrade as there is a super abundance of content that I have produced here which elucidates precisely my reasons and my justifications (if I need any) for the association we have had with Islam. And also, you can start by listening to the latter part of this video wherein I actually examine the precise rationale for our affinity for fundamentalist Islam:

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Sustacel250 wrote: 07 Dec 2025, 12:52
CyberSchizo wrote: 06 Dec 2025, 20:57 This forum's association with Islam never made sense to me.
Yeah im struggling too. I was thinking its an intelligence operation. I mean, I was worried maybe is one of these psyops where they mix communism + islam like that party in the UK.

It seems is a side thought in incel scene, some sort of thought experiment that was born in incel forums. The idea, how I understood it, is that what about we do marxist rodgerism with islam? Islam would be the fanatical fuel, the idea that gives incels that "fire", so they become implacable terminator machines who inflict summary justice on whores and normies. Instead communism is the reward for the loyal guards of the incel wisdom who worship ER and the saints. So the benevolent magnanimous communist elites can bestow pussy on any incel willing to carry out the mission of punishing normies and so on.

These ideas seem "insane". But, I realized recently they can exist. For instance 10 years ago I was reading this guy curtis yarwin thinking he was a loser nobody. I was thinking I was losing my life reading manuresphere bloggers. And this is true I did lose my life doing it. But this guy curtis yarwin now is literally the MAGA ideologue, his insane ideology is "serious stuff" for the times we live in.

The big idea is, yeah we forum retards do "matter". You can consider it a good thing or bad. I just am saying what I think it is. Even 4chan "matters". Redpill matters, it informed the views of politicians, it literally impregnated our entire culture.

FOr as much insane or impossible an idea may look to you, dont dismiss it instantly thinking it cannot happen. A lot of things we think currently are "impossible" will happen.

Which is why I keep talking online about remigration. I want to accustom normies to think we can remigrate all the browns and ship them back. They were used to think this is "impossible". But Im building rationalizations and accustom people to expect it can happen.

See my response to the comrade above for an in-depth analysis of why we espouse an affinity for Islam.
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Darth_aurelius wrote: 07 Dec 2025, 14:00

I say this respectfully but please educate yourself comrade as there is a super abundance of content that I have produced here which elucidates precisely my reasons and my justifications (if I need any) for the association we have had with Islam. And also, you can start by listening to the latter part of this video wherein I actually examine the precise rationale for our affinity for fundamentalist Islam:

Thanks. And yes I think youre optimal leader. Never seen anyone more qualified for incel rulership. If there has to be an incel leader I mean, if it even makes sense. overall excellent qualifications. Above the ones I have for sure.
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Sustacel250 wrote: 07 Dec 2025, 14:35
Darth_aurelius wrote: 07 Dec 2025, 14:00

I say this respectfully but please educate yourself comrade as there is a super abundance of content that I have produced here which elucidates precisely my reasons and my justifications (if I need any) for the association we have had with Islam. And also, you can start by listening to the latter part of this video wherein I actually examine the precise rationale for our affinity for fundamentalist Islam:

Thanks. And yes I think youre optimal leader. Never seen anyone more qualified for incel rulership. If there has to be an incel leader I mean, if it even makes sense. overall excellent qualifications. Above the ones I have for sure.

Thank you for the extremely gracious sentiments comrade, you do me much honor and I appreciate and am grateful for your support. We will also need men of gravitas, intellectual merit, personal fortitude and discretion to serve as the future leadership class in the vanguard of the impending Glorious Incel Revolution and for those honorable billets, I shall look to men such as yourself and others as ideal candidates worthy of leading our forces into an inspired vision of the future.
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Sustacel250 wrote: 07 Dec 2025, 12:52
CyberSchizo wrote: 06 Dec 2025, 20:57 This forum's association with Islam never made sense to me.
Yeah im struggling too. I was thinking its an intelligence operation. I mean, I was worried maybe is one of these psyops where they mix communism + islam like that party in the UK.

It seems is a side thought in incel scene, some sort of thought experiment that was born in incel forums. The idea, how I understood it, is that what about we do marxist rodgerism with islam? Islam would be the fanatical fuel, the idea that gives incels that "fire", so they become implacable terminator machines who inflict summary justice on whores and normies. Instead communism is the reward for the loyal guards of the incel wisdom who worship ER and the saints. So the benevolent magnanimous communist elites can bestow pussy on any incel willing to carry out the mission of punishing normies and so on.

These ideas seem "insane". But, I realized recently they can exist. For instance 10 years ago I was reading this guy curtis yarwin thinking he was a loser nobody. I was thinking I was losing my life reading manuresphere bloggers. And this is true I did lose my life doing it. But this guy curtis yarwin now is literally the MAGA ideologue, his insane ideology is "serious stuff" for the times we live in.

The big idea is, yeah we forum retards do "matter". You can consider it a good thing or bad. I just am saying what I think it is. Even 4chan "matters". Redpill matters, it informed the views of politicians, it literally impregnated our entire culture.

FOr as much insane or impossible an idea may look to you, dont dismiss it instantly thinking it cannot happen. A lot of things we think currently are "impossible" will happen.

Which is why I keep talking online about remigration. I want to accustom normies to think we can remigrate all the browns and ship them back. They were used to think this is "impossible". But Im building rationalizations and accustom people to expect it can happen.
Islam has a certain fervor a certain kind of psychological commitment process that is nearly impossible to break, penetrate or even merely scratch. This is commitment is of utmost solidarity, a type of bond and connection no one can get to and by applying this to our forum we can certainly make ourselves and impenetrable with this mindset and commitment. The concept of a personal struggle and then helping one another will enhance our unity.

Comparing ourselves to other ideologies and other individuals who resemble our situation will do us no good. Does not matter if they are red pill, MAGA or 4chan. The bottom line is we achieve to be different from them, superior to them and enhance our unity and steadfast commitment with concept of a personal struggle as defined by Islamic principles.
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SonOfElliotRodger wrote: 07 Dec 2025, 10:10
KingDavid wrote: 06 Dec 2025, 20:42
SonOfElliotRodger wrote: 06 Dec 2025, 18:59 I am sorry if this sounds repetitive but I just want to make one thing clear.

I AM NOT A MUSLIM ANYMORE HAVING DISAVOWED IT SO MANY YEARS AGO. At this point in my life Islam is nothing but a distant memory.

However certain values present among Mujahideen groups also present in Islam I believe we should incorporate into the daily lives of an Incel man such as masculinity, patriarchy, brotherhood, brothers supporting brothers, male only groups, entities, institutions, arenas basically men supporting men. A huge emphasis on Men's Rights.

ALL OF THIS SHOULD BE DONE WITHOUT GENDER SEGREGATION! This is a part of Islam I do not actually agree with because it promotes involuntarly celibacy rather than getting rid of it. Just think about it how are you going to be in a romantic and sexual relationship with a foid if you don't have any access to females?

I uphold patriarchal and masculine values preached in Islam and hold them to a high degree.

I am currently a member of the Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints.

I am a Latter Day Saint who has not forgotten about brotherhood in Islam.
I thought about becoming a Muslim before. I read the first part of the Quran I thought it was pretty good. The problem is what the Bible says. “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” -John 14:6

It’s like Judaism trying to get the Father without the Son. Except Judaism is worse cause they worship Baal and Moloch. And the Jews say Jesus is burning in piss and shit in hell. At least the Muslims respect Jesus.

“Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.” -1 John 2:23

“ 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.” -Galatians 1:8-9

I’m pretty sure the Quran says Muslims, Christians and Jews can get to heaven. The Bible says only those who accept Christ can go to heaven. So Christianity is safer for eternity if you ask me.
Actually the Quran says only Muslims can go to heaven.

Islam generally has way too many rules and regulations limiting almost any pleasure known to humanity. If you live in the West and are from such a background you really feel alienated and inferior as was my case growing up. This along with so many other reasons was why I disavowed Islam long ago. Not to mention being physically, mentally, verbally and emotionally abused and bullied by low life illegitimate cocksucking motherfuckers, whores and skanks who call themselves fucking "good muslims" but actually worship the devil. There is a lot of force, hypocrisy and down right bizarre traditions in Islam that equate entirely to abuse and torture.

So consider it a blessing you chose not to become a Muslim.

My experience with Evangelical Christianity and the LDS Church were different I found nothing but love and compassion in these arenas.

Good thinking to stick with Christ.
I damn near remembered the verse wrong. I haven’t read the Quran in over 2 years I forgot what I said. And I only read the first couple chapters I didn’t read the whole Quran cover to cover. This is the verse I was thinking of:

“ You will surely find the most bitter towards the believers to be the Jews and polytheists and the most gracious to be those who call themselves Christian. That is because there are priests and monks among them and because they are not arrogant.” -Al-Ma'idah 5:82

Yea you’re right it doesn’t say Christians go to heaven. It just says they’re more gracious and less bitter towards Muslims than Jews and polytheists.

But yea apparently in Islam you can’t eat pork. I like to eat bacon. And Christian’s aren’t allowed to kill unbelievers like Muslims and Jews are. So yea Christianity is honestly a more peaceful and righteous religion.
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Sustacel250 wrote: 07 Dec 2025, 12:52
CyberSchizo wrote: 06 Dec 2025, 20:57 This forum's association with Islam never made sense to me.
Yeah im struggling too. I was thinking its an intelligence operation. I mean, I was worried maybe is one of these psyops where they mix communism + islam like that party in the UK.

It seems is a side thought in incel scene, some sort of thought experiment that was born in incel forums. The idea, how I understood it, is that what about we do marxist rodgerism with islam? Islam would be the fanatical fuel, the idea that gives incels that "fire", so they become implacable terminator machines who inflict summary justice on whores and normies. Instead communism is the reward for the loyal guards of the incel wisdom who worship ER and the saints. So the benevolent magnanimous communist elites can bestow pussy on any incel willing to carry out the mission of punishing normies and so on.

These ideas seem "insane". But, I realized recently they can exist. For instance 10 years ago I was reading this guy curtis yarwin thinking he was a loser nobody. I was thinking I was losing my life reading manuresphere bloggers. And this is true I did lose my life doing it. But this guy curtis yarwin now is literally the MAGA ideologue, his insane ideology is "serious stuff" for the times we live in.

The big idea is, yeah we forum retards do "matter". You can consider it a good thing or bad. I just am saying what I think it is. Even 4chan "matters". Redpill matters, it informed the views of politicians, it literally impregnated our entire culture.

FOr as much insane or impossible an idea may look to you, dont dismiss it instantly thinking it cannot happen. A lot of things we think currently are "impossible" will happen.

Which is why I keep talking online about remigration. I want to accustom normies to think we can remigrate all the browns and ship them back. They were used to think this is "impossible". But Im building rationalizations and accustom people to expect it can happen.
During the revolutionary war of America in 1776, people thought it would be impossible for the colonists to defeat the all-powerful mighty British red coat army. They ended up doing the impossible and defeating the British and now we have America today.
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KingDavid wrote: 08 Dec 2025, 08:10
SonOfElliotRodger wrote: 07 Dec 2025, 10:10
KingDavid wrote: 06 Dec 2025, 20:42

I thought about becoming a Muslim before. I read the first part of the Quran I thought it was pretty good. The problem is what the Bible says. “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” -John 14:6

It’s like Judaism trying to get the Father without the Son. Except Judaism is worse cause they worship Baal and Moloch. And the Jews say Jesus is burning in piss and shit in hell. At least the Muslims respect Jesus.

“Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.” -1 John 2:23

“ 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.” -Galatians 1:8-9

I’m pretty sure the Quran says Muslims, Christians and Jews can get to heaven. The Bible says only those who accept Christ can go to heaven. So Christianity is safer for eternity if you ask me.
Actually the Quran says only Muslims can go to heaven.

Islam generally has way too many rules and regulations limiting almost any pleasure known to humanity. If you live in the West and are from such a background you really feel alienated and inferior as was my case growing up. This along with so many other reasons was why I disavowed Islam long ago. Not to mention being physically, mentally, verbally and emotionally abused and bullied by low life illegitimate cocksucking motherfuckers, whores and skanks who call themselves fucking "good muslims" but actually worship the devil. There is a lot of force, hypocrisy and down right bizarre traditions in Islam that equate entirely to abuse and torture.

So consider it a blessing you chose not to become a Muslim.

My experience with Evangelical Christianity and the LDS Church were different I found nothing but love and compassion in these arenas.

Good thinking to stick with Christ.
I damn near remembered the verse wrong. I haven’t read the Quran in over 2 years I forgot what I said. And I only read the first couple chapters I didn’t read the whole Quran cover to cover. This is the verse I was thinking of:

“ You will surely find the most bitter towards the believers to be the Jews and polytheists and the most gracious to be those who call themselves Christian. That is because there are priests and monks among them and because they are not arrogant.” -Al-Ma'idah 5:82

Yea you’re right it doesn’t say Christians go to heaven. It just says they’re more gracious and less bitter towards Muslims than Jews and polytheists.

But yea apparently in Islam you can’t eat pork. I like to eat bacon. And Christian’s aren’t allowed to kill unbelievers like Muslims and Jews are. So yea Christianity is honestly a more peaceful and righteous religion.
Yeah I agree with you a hundred percent bro. Christianity is definitely a much more peaceful and righteous religion.

When it comes to Jews they are in general ethnocentric more so than a lot of other people especially the higher you go in terms of devoutness and method of practice and as usual there are some exceptions to this. There are some Jews who are not cliche in any way and are friendly. But so many go them have this kind of nationalistic pride and pretty much shun out the rest of the world especially Hasidic Jews who tend to be the most rigid and distant towards society in general.

Reform Jews and Non practicing Jews tend to be the most accepting and are usually kinder than orthodox and conservative Jews.

I have known people in my life who could have fallen under the category of "polytheist" but for the most part I did not sense any bias or bigotry from them nor any steadfast commitment towards religious principles.
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KingDavid wrote: 08 Dec 2025, 08:14
Sustacel250 wrote: 07 Dec 2025, 12:52
CyberSchizo wrote: 06 Dec 2025, 20:57 This forum's association with Islam never made sense to me.
Yeah im struggling too. I was thinking its an intelligence operation. I mean, I was worried maybe is one of these psyops where they mix communism + islam like that party in the UK.

It seems is a side thought in incel scene, some sort of thought experiment that was born in incel forums. The idea, how I understood it, is that what about we do marxist rodgerism with islam? Islam would be the fanatical fuel, the idea that gives incels that "fire", so they become implacable terminator machines who inflict summary justice on whores and normies. Instead communism is the reward for the loyal guards of the incel wisdom who worship ER and the saints. So the benevolent magnanimous communist elites can bestow pussy on any incel willing to carry out the mission of punishing normies and so on.

These ideas seem "insane". But, I realized recently they can exist. For instance 10 years ago I was reading this guy curtis yarwin thinking he was a loser nobody. I was thinking I was losing my life reading manuresphere bloggers. And this is true I did lose my life doing it. But this guy curtis yarwin now is literally the MAGA ideologue, his insane ideology is "serious stuff" for the times we live in.

The big idea is, yeah we forum retards do "matter". You can consider it a good thing or bad. I just am saying what I think it is. Even 4chan "matters". Redpill matters, it informed the views of politicians, it literally impregnated our entire culture.

FOr as much insane or impossible an idea may look to you, dont dismiss it instantly thinking it cannot happen. A lot of things we think currently are "impossible" will happen.

Which is why I keep talking online about remigration. I want to accustom normies to think we can remigrate all the browns and ship them back. They were used to think this is "impossible". But Im building rationalizations and accustom people to expect it can happen.
During the revolutionary war of America in 1776, people thought it would be impossible for the colonists to defeat the all-powerful mighty British red coat army. They ended up doing the impossible and defeating the British and now we have America today.
It was a slow and gradual effort from militias to minutemen, French support and eventually independence.

But you have to remember one thing, the British have always had exceptionally smart leadership and this smartness was at it's peak during the age of empires. Nowadays the British government makes questionable decisions though their smartness still retains on a huge level.

That is one of the reaosns for the success of the British Empire.
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