I think eugenics first inceldom second

[Sustacel250]

I think incel issues should not go above general society issues.

Imagine an incel is dysgenic, by favoring the outcome he or she reproduces we reward human failure, we spread incel genetics that causes lowIQ and further inceldom. Society degrades, IQ gets lower, norms become more savage, illegality spreads, institutions cease functioning properly, morality goes lower, corruption spreads more, services dont function, doctor are less competent, politicians appeal to dumb people and give credit cards to breeders and disincentivize highIQ couples.

Its a cycle, and we cannot put incel interests above society interests.

Some of you will say that some incels are highIQ and they shoudl have a chance. I agree with you. Some incels are autistic, some are disempowered, some are prosocial and are getting discarded. I do think we should try to help where possible and value incels and try to integrate, with lots of benevolence, lots of it. I really mean it we have to open the door to autistics, help them and try to create a condition such that autistic people express their talents and their great qualities. And we have to help low income incels find a home and a job, and we have to help those who need coping with prostitution and hentai and a lot of free toys. We should help as much as humanely possible.

But assume an incel is an immature crybaby childish entitled loser that has lowIQ and harasses women and worships serial killers. I dont want that trash around me.

I dont want society to get dumber and uglier and polluted by dissidoid media and TV watchers and idolaters and people who degrade public morality arguing in favor of rape and dysgenics and shit ideologies. I want society to get better and highIQ couples be incentivized to produce more kids and I want to walk in the park seeing that nobody left dog-shit everywhere.

I want to walk around, see clean streets and I want to have competent doctors so when I get an issue I can call help. Or i want a measure of decency when I go at the library, i want a library to exist. I want museums, a sense of history and highIQ historians who keep records of the past. I also want to have functioning roads. And I want to have weather reports.

I dont want to have to be surrounded by nick fuentes followers who forget past 10 years and believe everything they see on socials. Which is why im not willing to reproduce the dysgenic freaks.

It may sound harsh but I dont think incel issues should have priority. Incel isues have to be subordinate to broad society issues. We could offer services to lonely men like counseling, therapy, hentai, prostitution tickets, housing, jobs. Whatever it takes to integrate the prosocial non-criminal elements. But the criminal elements have to go, they dont have to be reproduced.

[coreres]

100%. We need to exile normies and low iq niggers some place else, they serve no purpose and only worsen the world around them. We must genetically modify ourselves to be smarter so that we may make better judgements, innovate faster and solve problems quicker. We must also fully automate most physical labour so that we can focus on research and expansion while also being able to produce at a much larger scale than is currently possible. Our species must advance further, not be dragged down by scum

[Q_Mooseknuckle]

Our society is already doing this and it only made everything worse. Streets are filthier, doctors are more incompetent, libraries are lackluster and rare, high iq professionals are becoming rarer. I use America as a point of reference but virtually every western country is getting worse and it is because we ultimately DID put eugenics first at the cost of incels, even though incels are the high IQ philosophers who keep our society functioning and thinking critically. The powers that be turned us into the enemy and now nobody is thinking critically or saying the things that need to be said and if they are it usually comes with so much bias to the point where it becomes useless.

[Sustacel250]

Our society is already doing this and it only made everything worse. Streets are filthier, doctors are more incompetent, libraries are lackluster and rare, high iq professionals are becoming rarer. I use America as a point of reference but virtually every western country is getting worse and it is because we ultimately DID put eugenics first at the cost of incels, even though incels are the high IQ philosophers who keep our society functioning and thinking critically. The powers that be turned us into the enemy and now nobody is thinking critically or saying the things that need to be said and if they are it usually comes with so much bias to the point where it becomes useless.

America is a populist tyranny that proves lowIQ people should have never got power. It got worse and worse and worse across centuries. For instance you can read lovecraft criticism of republican party, you can apply it to what it is now.

What you see now is that the dumb is censoring the smart. Once the dumb takes control they instantly remove anyone with a point of IQ higher than the avg, even 1 point makes you criminalized.

Incels are not philosophers. The idea is chads have on avg higher intelligence, and people with symmetric face features have better intelligence. Ed Dutton proved it too, I mean is known that attractive people are more smart. Point is that attractive people often dont care about their own intelligence.

The ugly is often also the dumb. With exceptions. Like, you can cherrypick, and take some big brains that were ugly. They exist but they are not "incel", in the sense they do not go around repeating talking points from doomers. There is a reason why doomerism and chudism have no support from academia. We were used to have it, but once incels.is is (the dumb) took power all support went away. We had paragon from academia, rich guy doing public speeches. We dont have smart allies now, and there is a reason.

People who make society function are the doctors, the modernizer entrepreneurs, the managers, the scientists, the engineers, the researchers, the architects, the historians, the various construction workers and so on. Complex society needs tons of IQ, does not needs people who worship serial killers, we need a functioning non corrupt police. Or at least we need corruption to be under control and accept it because compared to other opions is the less shit alternative.

Nick fuentes didnt do anything, hes a dropout who did not contribute anything whatsoever. Guys like him who exploit and grift should be punished instead of being elevated in positions of power. Populism has to go away, society only gets worse when they take power.

[Sustacel250]

100%. We need to exile normies and low iq niggers some place else, they serve no purpose and only worsen the world around them. We must genetically modify ourselves to be smarter so that we may make better judgements, innovate faster and solve problems quicker. We must also fully automate most physical labour so that we can focus on research and expansion while also being able to produce at a much larger scale than is currently possible. Our species must advance further, not be dragged down by scum

Personally I like to have a park that is taken care of, and theres people who are payed to prune trees, someone is payed to collect the leaves, and normal people do not inject syringes or toss garbage, so I can wake up and get some sun exposure and do a walk in a good park, where there is a library that is free, and I can read what i want. And if I have an issue, i can call the doctor or the police, and they fix it.

This is what I like. A society that values people with intelligence, like doctors for example. I love they get valued the way they deserve, and it does not disturbs me to see my neighbor doctor with 2 porsches. Or to see the doctor that changes wife every 4 years. Bcause I need to have highIQ people around me, the place is so much better.

The highIQ area is green, its full of gardens, and buliding look cool and classical.

Now, we can talk how to empower disadvantaged people. We need education services, housing, jobs and art and give them cool villages like leuman village, we need to boost the medical services and improve a lot of things. What is not needed is give low income people dumb ideologies, and empower the rapist and the thug. If you empower the criminal elements the poor people will never improve and they will be tortured and humiliated by living in proximity with criminal derelicts who rob their apartment and spread poisonous drugs and try to rape their daughters.

There are things that are hindering the success of low income people, and they have also been measured. The first thing that predicts "ascension", meaning you stop being incel is getting a job. Once a guy has a job, he stops be incel, is what was observed in icel community. The second is housing.

Housing + jobs should be priority number 1 to help incels. Because they are the most reliable thing that fixes inceldom.

We dont have to focus on the irrelevant, such as lookism theories that have no credibility and were never proved and have zero success rate. What achieves the highest success is education, job, housing. Then we can talk about prostitution, offering therapy services, tickets to visit brothels, hentai, pornography, rehabilitating incel social image.

It takes effort because the dumb took control of incel identity, so we have to fight 2 enemies now: chuds + feminism. Previously we had only feminism, now is 2 enemies. Its getting harder not better.