Losing hope for this movement

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AutumN wrote: 14 May 2026, 14:19 I'm kinda losing hope but at the same time we just got a interview uploaded by Slyboy which was huge but still we are at the same place before the video was uploaded in terms of members.
Don't get me wrong I want the forum and movement to get somewhere but it's very exhausting trying to recruitmaxx and getting them to join just for them to be inactive after 1 post..

Does anyone feel the same if yeah share your thoughts
To be quite honest I am not sure if this movement can ever really be a vehicle of politics in a recognized sense, any achievable political strategy would involve putting up broadening organizational efforts (either through fronts or coalitions) to facilitate desirable recruitment and policy goals, this would invariably and inevitably alter the original ideology into something other as newer recruits redefine the broadening movement, you can see this play out in groups like Hezbollah (not to compare their conduct which is illegal to own which is perfectly legal) who originally started out as strict Islamic fundamentalists that eventually made the transition to a broader movement defined less by this Islamic puritanism and more by a sort of Lebanese nationalism that included more Christian and secular elements joined together in resistance to the shared existential enemy Israel. There is a niche quality to the ideology of gender that effectively isolates the adherent from the rest of society, by definition you are cordoning yourself off from half of the population at the get go, and the truth is that many more of the half that you seek to enlist are dissuaded as well given the opinion of the other half in combination with the sense of ego identifying with and taking seriously a movement plainly pertaining to sexless men rather than a broader metaphysics or wider set of grievances. Historically bands of "bare branches" or otherwise unproductive men have given way to revolutionary movements, this is undeniable, but to take this fact and then make it the sole ideation of the revolution tries to turn mechanism into motivational. It is unlikely though not impossible to get people to exert themselves fanatically in furtherance of incel ideology, furthermore you must take that fanatic material which you do possess and discipline it in way which escapes mere terrorism in the manner of Alec Minasian or Elliot Rodger which only stands to further isolate the ideology from the support of the people whom you rely on in order to successfully conduct revolution in the first place. My purpose is not to demoralize anyone with this post, nor is it to make insult, this is merely what I recognize as the plain reality as I see it, that people like slyboy can immediately disregard this struggle as unserious reflects a greater characterization by the majority of society which makes the need for a more transcendent politics evidently necessary.

That the movement itself is also largely constrained to online conduct is another major hindrance as there is no realistic impact that you can make by posting or making commentary alone. When you are a dissident ideologue on the internet you are quite literally engaging your adversary's (i.e. the US Gov't's) informational matrix, this makes a practicable politics nigh impossible as you are bound to be picked apart by internal security forces which take every note of everything through their total surveillance domination of the domain in question. By practicing a purely online politics real world praxis falls to the wayside as slacktivism, drama and infighting overtakes any actual potential. In order to have a successful politics you need an ability to set your interests against another through redlining, negotiation and an ability to incur costs on or gain leverage over rival parties to maintain political power.
 

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Broseph_Conrad wrote: 14 May 2026, 20:45


To be quite honest I am not sure if this movement can ever really be a vehicle of politics in a recognized sense, any achievable political strategy would involve putting up broadening organizational efforts (either through fronts or coalitions) to facilitate desirable recruitment and policy goals

In the sense of the way it stands as it is now, you're absolutely correct, We have alot of cleaning up an PR to do, The very word Incel itself has been tainted beyond recovery i'm afraid but anythings possible.
Broseph_Conrad wrote: 14 May 2026, 20:45 furthermore you must take that fanatic material which you do possess and discipline it in way which escapes mere terrorism in the manner of Alec Minasian or Elliot Rodger which only stands to further isolate the ideology from the support of the people whom you rely on in order to successfully conduct revolution in the first place.
I don't get how nobody else see this an it's this point right here that makes me believe these forums are already flooded with bots meant to post edgy out of pocket subversive comments to easily dismiss us or just Larpers


Broseph_Conrad wrote: 14 May 2026, 20:45 the truth is that many more of the half that you seek to enlist are dissuaded as well given the opinion of the other half in combination with the sense of ego identifying with and taking seriously a movement plainly pertaining to sexless men rather than a broader metaphysics or wider set of grievances.

this is a fair point but if you take into consideration the Black Pill an its message applies to the broader audience of men, even those in relationships who might subconsciously know their betabuxxin or at the very least getting different treatment, Even they can be reached out to , I figure if a "message" per se is goin to be pushed it would be from a Black-Pilling narrative then a incel one, Ofcourse Incels would be the main figures in this organization an inceldom would be covered under the black pill, misconceptions about incel's could also be corrected an mythes such as the "violent incel" could be dispelled(If we stopped glorifying these ER types, it would help alot more like you said.)

Broseph_Conrad wrote: 14 May 2026, 20:45 That the movement itself is also largely constrained to online conduct is another major hindrance as there is no realistic impact that you can make by posting or making commentary alone. When you are a dissident ideologue on the internet you are quite literally engaging your adversary's (i.e. the US Gov't's) informational matrix, this makes a practicable politics nigh impossible as you are bound to be picked apart by internal security forces which take every note of everything through their total surveillance domination of the domain in question. By practicing a purely online politics real world praxis falls to the wayside as slacktivism, drama and infighting overtakes any actual potential. In order to have a successful politics you need an ability to set your interests against another through redlining, negotiation and an ability to incur costs on or gain leverage over rival parties to maintain political power.
Holy shit yes, i went on .IS preaching this an about Incels needing to connect with other local Incels to form a loosely connected Asymmetrical an decentralized network, I was called a glowie -_- I would love to see more Incel Meet Ups maybe one day a bunch of cells meet up in the mountains for the largest Incel Camping Trip.
 

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Personally I do my version of incel activation. I antagonize any groyper or MAGA, but for a period I was active among hobos. We had a local chapter, still partly active.

One thing that irritates me is MAGAs always pretend as if they see longer than I do, or they think their knowledge is superior compared to mine, so they think they have to activate me. When you activate someone else mind you have to be superior. So, when a groyper or a MAGA tries to activate me, I instantly reject them and put them on their inferior place where they belong.

Your mind has to sit at a plane above the other person, you have to project your superiority. The lesser mind has to receive the thoughts you inject, and accept you are superior.

So when I deal with groypers or MAGA, I instantly reject them and classify them as inferior. Subsequently I start projecting myself on them, and if they fail to acknowledge I am superior, they simply go away. Obviously so far no doomer, no chud, no groyper was able to stand in front of me as equals. Which is why they should simply submit to me and accept I am superior, then learn from me.

As for how I understand it, currently the MAGA and groyper acknowledge nick fuentes as their leader. And they compare me to nick fuentes, they seem to think nick fuentes is stronger or smarter than I am, or their normie mind plays tricks on them, so they feel validated in a parasocial relationship they established with an electronic celebrity. Nick fuentes fad is also trending on social media, which persuades the normie to believe he is "riding the tide of history", in real life they are simply subjugated by a grifter.

I am above nick fuentes in every measurable quality, and when I talk to these people I talk like a superior enlightening the inferior. I understand they expect me to challenge nick to take control of his minions. Unfortunately I dont have time to lose on him. And I already challenged other ecelebs and the ground where they operate is one where I cannot exert much control at all.

Secondly, I have another life path, one where I dont want to be bothered caring for inferiors. I understand professions like online grifting requires you do a dayjob. I dont want to do it. Even if I had power and money to compete with nick, I wouldnt want to control the groyper chud army, because they are useless.

Past right wing movement already taught me all I need to knwo about the doomers and chuds, they are a burden dead weight and the reason they are exploited by a grifter is simply that grifting them to death is all they deserve.
 

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TruAlphaMale wrote: 14 May 2026, 17:07
Neo-Cel wrote: 14 May 2026, 16:38
TruAlphaMale wrote: 14 May 2026, 14:45 I feel you man, when I try to recruit new members 7/10 times they think we are feds and don’t join. It is really disappointing. Also it doesn’t help that our Captain went missing. In a few years we will be major though. We just have to wait.
wait what the fuck i saw that tweet, That was real ? He's missing ?
The feds got him. Me (TruAlphaMale) or SonOfElliotRodger are next because we both live in the US and are high ranking members. I probably said some shit about Elliot Rodger and about him being a good guy or whatever and the feds will detain me for that. If I am gone for more than a week, just know, they got me. I never made any threats of violence btw, the feds don’t care. The feds will attack any white incel or just any incel in general.
You share my worries comrade. We might be next. We still have no news on Darth.
 

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Losing hope is pessimistic and uncharacteristic of a incel revolutionary soldier! We need to keep up hope if we are going to succeed comrade!
 

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I have returned because of recent events. I also think Darth is a victim of either an overzealous FBI etc, or our brother in Florida tried throwing him under the bus after he himself was arrested.
 

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SonOfElliotRodger wrote: 15 May 2026, 09:41 Losing hope is pessimistic and uncharacteristic of a incel revolutionary soldier! We need to keep up hope if we are going to succeed comrade!
this 10000%
 

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