International Brotherhood of Men

The hell is going on with Israel recently. They are just mogging everyone in the region recently. First they crippled Hezbollah, then they obliterated Gaza, now they destroyed the entire nuclear leadership of Iran and gained total air superiority there. Israel jets are just freely flying aroud over Tehran without anyone stopping them.

Why is Israel mogging everyone now? What the hell happened man?

I wonder if they could stand a chance without US support. Whenever there is an army with foids in it, it's supported by US.
Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) - has all-foid militia - supported by US
Peshmerga (Kurdistan Regional Government) - has female fighters - supported by US
Afghan National Security Forces - had female fighters - supported by US
Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) – Israel - has many female fighters - supported by US
Yazidi Female Fighters - supported by US

I wonder what all of those would do without US support man. If only US wasn't such a CUCKED country that always needs to support foids anywhere and everywhere.

Things are about to get very ugly there all around

Vincent wrote: 14 Jun 2025, 17:11 The hell is going on with Israel recently. They are just mogging everyone in the region recently. First they crippled Hezbollah, then they obliterated Gaza, now they destroyed the entire nuclear leadership of Iran and gained total air superiority there. Israel jets are just freely flying aroud over Tehran without anyone stopping them.

Why is Israel mogging everyone now? What the hell happened man?

I wonder if they could stand a chance without US support. Whenever there is an army with foids in it, it's supported by US.
Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) - has all-foid militia - supported by US
Peshmerga (Kurdistan Regional Government) - has female fighters - supported by US
Afghan National Security Forces - had female fighters - supported by US
Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) – Israel - has many female fighters - supported by US
Yazidi Female Fighters - supported by US

I wonder what all of those would do without US support man. If only US wasn't such a CUCKED country that always needs to support foids anywhere and everywhere.

I was going to make a post earlier which enunciated the official position of the IBM and IPF which, of course both stand with our Mujahedeen brothers in Salafi Islamic arms in Hamas, Iran, the Hezbollah Brigades and all other honorable forces of justice, but you preempted me with your own comments above.

On my analysis the idf is ill equipped for a large-scale conventional war with a nation such as Iran and is more tactically disposed and trained to neutralize smaller scale insurgency type threats which arise in Gaza and the West Bank. The US is and always has been the primary armorer and financier of the jews and unlike any other country whose operations we have subsidized either presently or historically, our assistance to the kikes comes with no strings attached and is unconditional, hence their brazened and entirely unprovoked act of unilateral offensive military action.

The Iranians have strategic partnerships with both Russia and China so any direct US involvement in the region will likely precipitate a global conflict that the West is not like win. Deploying forces in the Middle East is also political suicide here domestically after the fiasco of Iraq and the humiliating shame of Afghanistan and while Trump is too much of a buffoon to assimilate that fact, his far more Machiavellian Vice President certainly will.

Darth_aurelius wrote: 14 Jun 2025, 23:04 Hamas, Iran, the Hezbollah Brigades and all other honorable forces of justice

They need to be more smart. They get outsmarted by the jews a lot recently. Honestly it's embarrassing to watch. I just looked up Israel's and Iranian's population. Iran has 9 times more people. NINE TIMES more. This is almost a 10:1 ratio. Yet they get mogged by Israel. And if you then consider the populations of all of Israel's enemies combined it gets absolutely ridiculous. Israel should be like a little booger to them, it's like 1 jew for 20 of their enemies, yet they mog them wtf man. This is an embarrassment, they need to seriously rethink their strategy because it ain't working. I'm not a military guy so can't tell you what they are doing wrong, but they are doing something wrong if they have a ratio of 20:1 and still loose man.

Vincent wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 00:10

Darth_aurelius wrote: 14 Jun 2025, 23:04 Hamas, Iran, the Hezbollah Brigades and all other honorable forces of justice

They need to be more smart. They get outsmarted by the jews a lot recently. Honestly it's embarrassing to watch. I just looked up Israel's and Iranian's population. Iran has 9 times more people. NINE TIMES more. This is almost a 10:1 ratio. Yet they get mogged by Israel. And if you then consider the populations of all of Israel's enemies combined it gets absolutely ridiculous. Israel should be like a little booger to them, it's like 1 jew for 20 of their enemies, yet they mog them wtf man. This is an embarrassment, they need to seriously rethink their strategy because it ain't working. I'm not a military guy so can't tell you what they are doing wrong, but they are doing something wrong if they have a ratio of 20:1 and still loose man.

It's not about quantity in strategic studies but more so about quality and any assessment of military history will confirm this hypothesis. Consider the overwhelming numerical superiority of the Red Army during the opening stages of the invasion of Russia by the Wehrmacht. Despite their considerable advantage in numbers, the Soviets were consistently defeated, surrounded and enveloped by German forces which had superior discipline, more advanced equipment and better training. The ONLY reason the fucking kikes have any advantage in their unending wars with their Arab neighbors is because the US gives them billions of dollars in equipment and technology every year, more so than any other nation on earth as we are entirely beholden to our jew overlords here in this country.

Darth_aurelius wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 10:21 It's not about quantity in strategic studies but more so about quality and any assessment of military history will confirm this hypothesis.

I think the main problem is this:


They also lost the 6 day war to Israel due to this.

Vincent wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 12:48

Darth_aurelius wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 10:21 It's not about quantity in strategic studies but more so about quality and any assessment of military history will confirm this hypothesis.

I think the main problem is this:


They also lost the 6 day war to Israel due to this.

I don't have time to watch that jew propaganda and I would also appreciate it if you would engage with the substance of my arguments instead of selectively picking out those aspects which you can find YT videos to use to rebut. The jews have unlimited resources and the most advanced military technology known to man compliments of their servile goyim cunts in the US. Even if niggers were given access to such incomparable force multipliers they too would achieve tactical and strategic hegemony.

Darth_aurelius wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 13:43 I don't have time to watch that jew propaganda

If it's jew propaganda, then it's pretty convincing jew propaganda, I gotta say.

Darth_aurelius wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 13:43 and I would also appreciate it if you would engage with the substance of my arguments instead of selectively picking out those aspects which you can find YT videos to use to rebut. The jews have unlimited resources and the most advanced military technology known to man compliments of their servile goyim cunts in the US. Even if niggers were given access to such incomparable force multipliers they too would achieve tactical and strategic hegemony.

I didn't disagree with what you said at all about training, discipline etc. being important.
I mean, what you seem to be suggesting however, is that Israel only won due to the support of US. And the support of US certainly plays a big role, but I think it can not explain this total disaster. I think there is a cultural factor, which, like it or not, is certainly at play there. The points in the video are pretty logical to me. I can see how they could contribute. They also pointed out how groups such as islamic state that didn't suffer as much from those problems fared much better.

This is the jewish propaganda video I was talking about, from the same channel, explaining why the Most Powerful Armies Can't Defeat Islamists With AK-47s. I found it interesting.

Vincent wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 14:54

Darth_aurelius wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 13:43 I don't have time to watch that jew propaganda

If it's jew propaganda, then it's pretty convincing jew propaganda, I gotta say.

Darth_aurelius wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 13:43 and I would also appreciate it if you would engage with the substance of my arguments instead of selectively picking out those aspects which you can find YT videos to use to rebut. The jews have unlimited resources and the most advanced military technology known to man compliments of their servile goyim cunts in the US. Even if niggers were given access to such incomparable force multipliers they too would achieve tactical and strategic hegemony.

I didn't disagree with what you said at all about training, discipline etc. being important.
I mean, what you seem to be suggesting however, is that Israel only won due to the support of US. And the support of US certainly plays a big role, but I think it can not explain this total disaster. I think there is a cultural factor, which, like it or not, is certainly at play there. The points in the video are pretty logical to me. I can see how they could contribute. They also pointed out how groups such as islamic state that didn't suffer as much from those problems fared much better.

This is the jewish propaganda video I was talking about, from the same channel, explaining why the Most Powerful Armies Can't Defeat Islamists With AK-47s. I found it interesting.

interesting

Vincent wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 14:54

Darth_aurelius wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 13:43 I don't have time to watch that jew propaganda

If it's jew propaganda, then it's pretty convincing jew propaganda, I gotta say.

Darth_aurelius wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 13:43 and I would also appreciate it if you would engage with the substance of my arguments instead of selectively picking out those aspects which you can find YT videos to use to rebut. The jews have unlimited resources and the most advanced military technology known to man compliments of their servile goyim cunts in the US. Even if niggers were given access to such incomparable force multipliers they too would achieve tactical and strategic hegemony.

I didn't disagree with what you said at all about training, discipline etc. being important.
I mean, what you seem to be suggesting however, is that Israel only won due to the support of US. And the support of US certainly plays a big role, but I think it can not explain this total disaster. I think there is a cultural factor, which, like it or not, is certainly at play there. The points in the video are pretty logical to me. I can see how they could contribute. They also pointed out how groups such as islamic state that didn't suffer as much from those problems fared much better.

This is the jewish propaganda video I was talking about, from the same channel, explaining why the Most Powerful Armies Can't Defeat Islamists With AK-47s. I found it interesting.

I don't want to see any support for israel in these forums, either implicitly or explicitly. We are an organization that reveres the Islamic tradition, culture and faith and which venerates, honors and pledges eternal loyalty and fealty to almighty Allah. The IPF stands in full solidarity with our brothers in Islamic arms in the Hezbollah Brigades, Hamas, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, Lashkar e-Taiba and all other honorable and valiant freedom fighters who sacrifice everything in the name of Islamic piety and the restoration of a proper patriarchal culture.

If you want to summarize that video very briefly and articulate its most salient points then please do so below. Also, if you acknowledge that the jews only have the advanced technology and fighting capabilities that they do because of their vibrant economy and relative per capita wealth then you are implicitly conceding the point I have been making about the subsidizing of israel by the US. If you divest the jews of the cumulative resources and incalculable billions of dollars which the American goyim here have unconditionally granted them, then they would not have the means by which to effectuate such a tenacious defense.

Finally, I strongly recommend you join my virtual townhall meeting tomorrow afternoon at 300 PM EST so that we can engage in a proper debate/conversation regarding these matters and resolve our differences of opinion through a dialectical process in the Socratic tradition.

Summary of first video "How Religious Culture Ruined Arab Armies"
The video transcript titled "How Religious Culture Ruined Arab Armies" presents a detailed argument that Arab armies have historically underperformed in warfare due to deep-rooted cultural and structural issues, rather than lack of resources or equipment.

The main points are:

Arab armies consistently lose wars despite having numerical, technological, or logistical advantages. Examples include the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, Libya's defeat by Chad in the 1980s, and the Six-Day War.

The root causes of their military ineffectiveness are cultural, not technical. Arab societies did not undergo true industrialization, leading to a lack of familiarity with machinery and poor technical education among soldiers. Maintenance and operation of advanced weapons often fail due to dependence on foreign contractors.

Military hierarchies mirror traditional Arab family structures—strictly top-down, patriarchal, and based on loyalty over competence. Generals are often chosen for loyalty to autocratic rulers rather than skill, weakening leadership.

Junior officers and non-commissioned officers (NCOs) lack initiative, flexibility, and autonomy due to cultural norms that discourage questioning superiors or acting independently. This severely hampers battlefield responsiveness.

There’s a near absence of a functioning NCO corps, poor cross-training, and a culture of hoarding information for personal advancement, all of which lead to a lack of cohesion and resilience in combat.

Tribal, religious, and national divisions further erode unit cohesion. Primary loyalty is often to clan or sect rather than the military unit or nation.

Religious fatalism and educational systems based on rote memorization (not critical thinking) reinforce inflexibility and passivity.

However, insurgent groups like Hezbollah and ISIS have performed better militarily because they bypass these rigid structures and operate with decentralized, flexible command systems.

Despite these problems, Arab forces often show remarkable determination and resilience, and societal shifts in education and leadership style may eventually improve military effectiveness.

In essence, the video argues that Arab military weakness stems from a mismatch between traditional authoritarian, hierarchical culture and the demands of modern industrial or knowledge-based warfare.

Summary of second video "Why the Most Powerful Armies Can't Defeat Islamists With AK-47s"
The video explains why powerful modern armies consistently fail to defeat Islamic extremist groups armed with basic weapons like AK-47s. The core reasons include:

Western powers see war as a means to achieve concrete goals (political stability, territorial control, peace), expecting eventual negotiations. In contrast, Islamist extremists see war as a permanent religious duty and divine struggle. For them, the act of fighting is itself the goal, not territory or peace.

Western democracies are limited by elections, public opinion, and media cycles. They require quick results and minimal casualties. Islamist groups, however, measure success over decades, glorify martyrdom, and use death as propaganda, turning each fallen fighter into a symbol.

Western armies follow international laws and norms that restrict warfare. Extremists reject these rules and exploit them by using civilians as shields, blending into populations, and operating from civilian areas. This puts democracies in a moral and political trap.

Extremist groups fight asymmetrically, using mobile cells and guerrilla tactics that drain resources and morale. They don’t need to win battles—just survive and persist until the other side quits.

Ultimately, the video argues that the real failure is conceptual: powerful states keep applying conventional military thinking to ideological enemies who do not share their worldview. These wars cannot be won by force alone, because they are not about land or politics, but about beliefs. Until this is understood, modern militaries will keep losing asymmetric wars despite tactical victories.

Vincent wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 16:18 Summary of second video "Why the Most Powerful Armies Can't Defeat Islamists With AK-47s"
The video explains why powerful modern armies consistently fail to defeat Islamic extremist groups armed with basic weapons like AK-47s. The core reasons include:

Western powers see war as a means to achieve concrete goals (political stability, territorial control, peace), expecting eventual negotiations. In contrast, Islamist extremists see war as a permanent religious duty and divine struggle. For them, the act of fighting is itself the goal, not territory or peace.

Western democracies are limited by elections, public opinion, and media cycles. They require quick results and minimal casualties. Islamist groups, however, measure success over decades, glorify martyrdom, and use death as propaganda, turning each fallen fighter into a symbol.

Western armies follow international laws and norms that restrict warfare. Extremists reject these rules and exploit them by using civilians as shields, blending into populations, and operating from civilian areas. This puts democracies in a moral and political trap.

Extremist groups fight asymmetrically, using mobile cells and guerrilla tactics that drain resources and morale. They don’t need to win battles—just survive and persist until the other side quits.

Ultimately, the video argues that the real failure is conceptual: powerful states keep applying conventional military thinking to ideological enemies who do not share their worldview. These wars cannot be won by force alone, because they are not about land or politics, but about beliefs. Until this is understood, modern militaries will keep losing asymmetric wars despite tactical victories.

Nice use of ChaptGPT. Come on to element and meet me in person, like a man so that we can settle our differences in a proper and manly debate tomorrow as per my earlier invitation. Inshallah.

Darth_aurelius wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 16:20

Vincent wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 16:18 Summary of second video "Why the Most Powerful Armies Can't Defeat Islamists With AK-47s"
The video explains why powerful modern armies consistently fail to defeat Islamic extremist groups armed with basic weapons like AK-47s. The core reasons include:

Western powers see war as a means to achieve concrete goals (political stability, territorial control, peace), expecting eventual negotiations. In contrast, Islamist extremists see war as a permanent religious duty and divine struggle. For them, the act of fighting is itself the goal, not territory or peace.

Western democracies are limited by elections, public opinion, and media cycles. They require quick results and minimal casualties. Islamist groups, however, measure success over decades, glorify martyrdom, and use death as propaganda, turning each fallen fighter into a symbol.

Western armies follow international laws and norms that restrict warfare. Extremists reject these rules and exploit them by using civilians as shields, blending into populations, and operating from civilian areas. This puts democracies in a moral and political trap.

Extremist groups fight asymmetrically, using mobile cells and guerrilla tactics that drain resources and morale. They don’t need to win battles—just survive and persist until the other side quits.

Ultimately, the video argues that the real failure is conceptual: powerful states keep applying conventional military thinking to ideological enemies who do not share their worldview. These wars cannot be won by force alone, because they are not about land or politics, but about beliefs. Until this is understood, modern militaries will keep losing asymmetric wars despite tactical victories.

Nice use of ChaptGPT. Come on to element and meet me in person, like a man so that we can settle our differences in a proper and manly debate tomorrow as per my earlier invitation. Inshallah.

He first needs to ask chatgpt for a short summary of your response.

@Sumzero

We need to conduct virtual Jihad in this thread against anyone who dares to insinuate that the forces of degeneracy and jewish empowerment are in any way superior to those which almighty Allah has bestowed His favor upon. Also, I have invited Vincent to come on to element and engage in a proper debate with me tomorrow during the vc as men do so that we may sort this out in an honorable manner.

VH911 wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 16:21

Darth_aurelius wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 16:20

Vincent wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 16:18 Summary of second video "Why the Most Powerful Armies Can't Defeat Islamists With AK-47s"
The video explains why powerful modern armies consistently fail to defeat Islamic extremist groups armed with basic weapons like AK-47s. The core reasons include:

Western powers see war as a means to achieve concrete goals (political stability, territorial control, peace), expecting eventual negotiations. In contrast, Islamist extremists see war as a permanent religious duty and divine struggle. For them, the act of fighting is itself the goal, not territory or peace.

Western democracies are limited by elections, public opinion, and media cycles. They require quick results and minimal casualties. Islamist groups, however, measure success over decades, glorify martyrdom, and use death as propaganda, turning each fallen fighter into a symbol.

Western armies follow international laws and norms that restrict warfare. Extremists reject these rules and exploit them by using civilians as shields, blending into populations, and operating from civilian areas. This puts democracies in a moral and political trap.

Extremist groups fight asymmetrically, using mobile cells and guerrilla tactics that drain resources and morale. They don’t need to win battles—just survive and persist until the other side quits.

Ultimately, the video argues that the real failure is conceptual: powerful states keep applying conventional military thinking to ideological enemies who do not share their worldview. These wars cannot be won by force alone, because they are not about land or politics, but about beliefs. Until this is understood, modern militaries will keep losing asymmetric wars despite tactical victories.

Nice use of ChaptGPT. Come on to element and meet me in person, like a man so that we can settle our differences in a proper and manly debate tomorrow as per my earlier invitation. Inshallah.

He first needs to ask chatgpt for a short summary of your response.

What are you implying, private?

Darth_aurelius wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 16:23 @Sumzero

We need to conduct virtual Jihad in this thread against anyone who dares to insinuate that the forces of degeneracy and jewish empowerment are in any way superior to those which almighty Allah has bestowed His favor upon. Also, I have invited Vincent to come on to element and engage in a proper debate with me tomorrow during the vc as men do so that we may sort this out in an honorable manner.

indeed we could have a debate between you two and we could put it up on the YT channel with vincent pro jewish and darth pro islam,
maybe I can be an intermediary or just step aside as to not make it an unfair 2v1

Darth_aurelius wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 16:23 @Sumzero

We need to conduct virtual Jihad in this thread against anyone who dares to insinuate that the forces of degeneracy and jewish empowerment are in any way superior to those which almighty Allah has bestowed His favor upon. Also, I have invited Vincent to come on to element and engage in a proper debate with me tomorrow during the vc as men do so that we may sort this out in an honorable manner.

Brother, it's not about supporting jews or insulting anyone. I am just speechless that this tiny little nation manages to overpower their neighbors which are much stronger population wise. And I think the videos I provided summaries for give pretty convincing reasons for why that is.

I'm just speechless man. It's something that should simply be impossible. I don't care if US gives this many weapons etc. It just shouldn't be possible. They should have never won the six day war. And I think if arabs wanna win they need to do some self reflection because there is something wrong in the way they have organized their armies (which the videos explained). Again, this has nothing to do with glorifying jews man, it's just pure strategy and organization. Just militarily, you gotta be able to see mistakes and correct them.

Ideology can be tricky man. I think it's why Hitler lost. He thought his people were superior by race. Thought he would just need to kick the door in and the sowjet union would collapse. Then he got taught the hard way that that was not the case.

Same thing with religion. It's not good for the army when you just assume that everything is up to Allah, instead of strategy and organization. You gotta be innovative man and just look cold blooded and rationally at why things happen how they happen.
That's my two cents. No disrespect brother.

I hate USA and their proxies.

Darth_aurelius wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 16:23

VH911 wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 16:21 He first needs to ask chatgpt for a short summary of your response.

What are you implying, private?

@VH911 Let's not be disrespectful. Not everyone has time to watch a 20 minute or 30 minute video, I totally get it. I also often just don't have time. I am interested in military strategy and history.

Darth_aurelius wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 16:06

Vincent wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 14:54

Darth_aurelius wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 13:43 I don't have time to watch that jew propaganda

If it's jew propaganda, then it's pretty convincing jew propaganda, I gotta say.

Darth_aurelius wrote: 15 Jun 2025, 13:43 and I would also appreciate it if you would engage with the substance of my arguments instead of selectively picking out those aspects which you can find YT videos to use to rebut. The jews have unlimited resources and the most advanced military technology known to man compliments of their servile goyim cunts in the US. Even if niggers were given access to such incomparable force multipliers they too would achieve tactical and strategic hegemony.

I didn't disagree with what you said at all about training, discipline etc. being important.
I mean, what you seem to be suggesting however, is that Israel only won due to the support of US. And the support of US certainly plays a big role, but I think it can not explain this total disaster. I think there is a cultural factor, which, like it or not, is certainly at play there. The points in the video are pretty logical to me. I can see how they could contribute. They also pointed out how groups such as islamic state that didn't suffer as much from those problems fared much better.

This is the jewish propaganda video I was talking about, from the same channel, explaining why the Most Powerful Armies Can't Defeat Islamists With AK-47s. I found it interesting.

@Vincent


I don't want to see any support for israel in these forums, either implicitly or explicitly. We are an organization that reveres the Islamic tradition, culture and faith and which venerates, honors and pledges eternal loyalty and fealty to almighty Allah. The IPF stands in full solidarity with our brothers in Islamic arms in the Hezbollah Brigades, Hamas, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, Lashkar e-Taiba and all other honorable and valiant freedom fighters who sacrifice everything in the name of Islamic piety and the restoration of a proper patriarchal culture.

If you want to summarize that video very briefly and articulate its most salient points then please do so below. Also, if you acknowledge that the jews only have the advanced technology and fighting capabilities that they do because of their vibrant economy and relative per capita wealth then you are implicitly conceding the point I have been making about the subsidizing of israel by the US. If you divest the jews of the cumulative resources and incalculable billions of dollars which the American goyim here have unconditionally granted them, then they would not have the means by which to effectuate such a tenacious defense.

Finally, I strongly recommend you join my virtual townhall meeting tomorrow afternoon at 300 PM EST so that we can engage in a proper debate/conversation regarding these matters and resolve our differences of opinion through a dialectical process in the Socratic tradition.

You still have yet to engage substantively with any of the points that I raised in the post which I am now tagging you on once again. Also, I have been politely requesting that you rejoin us on element now for over a week and even assigned my technical manager Tovarishcel to facilitate your return so I expect to see you there today.

Finally, remember that it was I who defended you from the depredations of VH several weeks ago when he deliberately provoked you with particularly obscene content on element and it was I who have always patiently explained exactly why I think the way I do about any number of contentious topics when you have made inquiries. You would do well to remember the consideration that I have always extended you now.