Redpill was a feminist project.

[Sustacel250]

I mean when it came out was invented by feminists.

The question was: we have no family, the modern man cannot know how to form a couple without of arranged marriages or group pairings.

The feminists said "men can learn to interpret signals, we will have a dating culture where women can reject mates".

I am talking 40 years ago, when norms were changing. At first, the redpill dating advice was run by feminism, a ton of feminist "life coaches" wrote books on how men can interpret "woman signals". Or they explained how a man can detect sexual interest, and "make his move" when hes being invitd by a woman.

This field was run 100% by feminists.

Fast forward to the 2000s, the field is run by men and they call it "redpill". They start pretending what they are doing is "out of the ordinary" and nobody thought about it before. They pretend as if this practice of dating and gamified mating is "revolutionary new stuff anti feminist against social norms". It wasnt. It stinks of old feminist shit. But men believed it. Many people believed redpill allowed them to see thru the matrix social code and interpret "woman signals", and this made them superior and able to bend reality with the power of the mind.

It was just feminism. All along. it was created by feminism. It was the response feminism had to our problems. Feminism told us to interpret woman signals. Feminism said we would have had no problems without arranged marriages or our parents giving us a girl or our culture having shared spaces where we meet girls. They said it was easy, just go in a dating "open market" and "just interpret woman signals".

We know how it ended up.

[dommalgalem]

I would say you are on something here, more or less the red pill borrowed their advice from older groups and made an amalgamation of them when we see their ideals on marriage, masculine men, and women.

Yes, the relationship landscape was before driven less by macho guys wearing sunglasses indoors and more by your usual blue pilled persona (s), journalism, and so on, but I'd say these guys added basically a merging of the provider and playboy dynamic and called them guidelines.

You'll see feminism's concerns for these red pill ideals, which may have been similar to theirs long ago but more or less changed in a more androcentric way, which of course, they're in disapproval.

The red pill landscape hasn't abandoned much of what you're saying, but added in conservative and masculine values in the bun. Going as far as seeing women as animals (in which they are, we all are) saying how they are less than a man and should be nurturing and provided for (their words), we then see podcasts of them bringing in one dimensional women and using them as a way on showing how less they are and describing their roles in their masculine philosophy.

Again, modern day feminism dislikes this, because borrowing from them was one thing, and then adding in conservative values is another, going far against their women's liberation movement from the 1950s household.

We have an ideal similar with ours, with added in 'misogyny'.

Again, their words should hold something here, because how or why the blue pill ideals are fine with them is because of how less andro focused the blue pill is.

Being sincere, the red pill is a more based version here, the blue pill allows men being subdued with women, so, again, more or less in agreement with their genuine beliefs on relationships, modern feminism desires men belonging with them in a less masculine way.

[Sustacel250]

You'll see feminism's concerns for these red pill ideals, which may have been similar to theirs long ago but more or less changed in a more androcentric way, which of course, they're in disapproval.

The red pill landscape hasn't abandoned much of what you're saying, but added in conservative and masculine values in the bun. Going as far as seeing women as animals (in which they are, we all are) saying how they are less than a man and should be nurturing and provided for (their words), we then see podcasts of them bringing in one dimensional women and using them as a way on showing how less they are and describing their roles in their masculine philosophy.

Again, modern day feminism dislikes this, because borrowing from them was one thing, and then adding in conservative values is another, going far against their women's liberation movement from the 1950s household.

Yes redpill mutated a lot of the original core message. Contemporary redpill has nothing to do almost with what I described. I mean there are many redpillers who consider the dating advice stuff to be the core of their transformation, or they consider it a milestone that they reached but they went on to other topics. Most redpill content creators nowadays are like andrew tate so they evolved in another direction.

Many of them are grown men, and they refer to themselves as "black belts in woman", so they claim they know "woman nature" to such a great level they are able to get pussy snapping their fingers. I heard them, talked to them, overall is how they perceive themselves and they have feminism integrated into their own very identity.

I have other things to say about redpill. For instance, did you know is based on kabbalah? I believe I already opened a shitpost about it. I can prove it. I can prove all I said is true. I can prove with direct quotes from feminist books that this idea of the dating advice or the "interpret woman signals" is feminism and came out of feminism. Im not just interpreting stuff it literally is feminism

[dommalgalem]

Yes redpill mutated a lot of the original core message. Contemporary redpill has nothing to do almost with what I described. I mean there are many redpillers who consider the dating advice stuff to be the core of their transformation, or they consider it a milestone that they reached but they went on to other topics. Most redpill content creators nowadays are like andrew tate so they evolved in another direction.

All in all, the red pill was always more or less a business rather than a modern day philosophy on human beings and reproduction. Especially on women's biases on male success.

Because your describing them borrowing from a millionaire playboy because most young men are done with a 'boring' household dynamic as much as feminism is, because for one, modern men already have issues finding a woman who would generally see beyond his worth or appearance.

Women generally are choosy by nature, you would guess feminism was made on the guidelines regarding eugenics and equal fairness.

So, in essence, young men desire another lifestyle from one which ended, being monogamy.

So red pill gurus know this and add in more 'desirable' men, and men these days are becoming more in misogyny as a response from feminism's eugenic, namely jealous enterprise.

But even with all this being said the red pill holds on dearly with their household dynamics while also playing in on the whole machoness ordeal, while suggesting men die for women with added in misogyny.

All basically are businessman.

The black pill suffers from this also.

[Sustacel250]

All in all, the red pill was always more or less a business rather than a modern day philosophy on human beings and reproduction. Especially on women's biases on male success.

No I believe it was a very important philosophy and one of these philosophies that gets implanted into people heads and achieves widespread success and even changes politics.

So red pill gurus know this and add in more 'desirable' men, and men these days are becoming more in misogyny as a response from feminism's eugenic, namely jealous enterprise.

Yeah they know these things and take advantage of desires and holes in other narratives, they create psyops like confucius scammers do in china when they predate lonely women who have lost a husband or like when catholic church was taking away property from kids who lost their father to crusades or like when cults benefit from the suffering and social isolation of the people. Same stuff, no more no less than a parasitism vulture hyena model. In times of crysis vultures and hyenas and grave robbers arise to stab in the stomach anyone hurt.

That said. Redpill - Bluepill means left hand path right hand path. Is called like this in goetia which is also kabbalah. Neo grabs the red pill with his left hand. Neo is messiah son of david. Morpheus is messiah son of josef (jesus). Trinity is shekinah, agent smith is samael and binah is oracle and so on. The matrix movie follows the kabbalah to the letter, the same sequence of events in kabbalah, the same progression. And in the end (matrix 3) shekinah is restored. In matrix 2 we have the destruction of zion for 5 times, and during the 6th the process completes and humanity has a chance to reunite with the divine.

I think this is obvious, regardless what these redpillers think they are, they made the choice to follow left hand path (redpill) and is the path of descension, the path that leads to zionism. I understand if youre new to this info, I am confusing you. I am splattering info all over you, and maybe you didnt even have any sort of idea whats the kabbalah whats this "left hand path" im speaking of.

I just think is good I present you my final realization. Even if I scare you and you think Im just another schizo retard.

Overall my final theory of redpill is yeah its life changing philosophy, its not a joke. So many people call themselves "redpill", it also influenced our contemporary politics. Yeah it is a big deal.