Did chuds ever get something ?

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I mean chudism and doomerism produced this legion of people who accepts reorientation. I believe some younger people were already reoriented multiple times and I heard people who jumped from paganism to orthobro to nick fuentes.

But older millennials probably were reoriented only a couple of times I think by white nationalists and by jordan peterson maybe some converted to gnostic apolitical later, after their neurons were fried by multiple psyops.

What i was wondering is, did any of the people following chudism and doomerism get something out of it? Like, they follow andrew tate enticed by the idea of becoming a sigma male grinder with polygamous relationships. But, it didnt happen, I didnt see anyone boosting his wealth as result of listening to tate for a long period of time. I didnt see anyone reporting any success.

Or, when people listened to jordan peterson, he offered them the idea marriage is a sexual redistributive model, but none made it, none whatsoever. I believe Jordan peterson unlike andrew tate does teaches some actually useful things like the idea of "clean your room". Its a basic thing to say but at least is true.

At least if you follow JP you get a clean room, better than nothing.

Nick Griftentes instead tells people that we have to enjoy being mutilated and racially replaced, because this is "based", but again did any doomer or chud ever got something oout of it? Seems to me the only people enriching themselves from grifting manuresphere circles are the advice bro themselves. So nick in particular became one of the richest in his age group, by shamelessly grifting like a pajeet if not even worse because he targets boomers from his own race. At least pajeets target racial enemies. Nick instead is grifting against his own race.

My question stands. what are we gaining from this? So far, seems nothing was gained.